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Titel: Legality of S. terrestris
Bericht door: Nat1 op december 10, 2012, 07:56:54 AM
Is it legal to buy Salamandra terrestris in DE, and bring to NL? Which of the two legal forms do I need to do this? After subsequent generations of S. terrestris have been born, is it legal to sell those in NL? Is it legal to sell those offspring of original purchase in DE and other EU member countries? Thank you in advance; I find all these legalities very confusing. :P
Titel: Re:Legality of S. terrestris
Bericht door: joost.v.wijk op december 10, 2012, 08:19:34 AM
NL is the only country where all (sub)species of Salamandra salamandra are illegal to keep.
Titel: Re:Legality of S. terrestris
Bericht door: Nat1 op december 10, 2012, 11:20:22 AM
Gosh, our bad luck, Joost! I'm moving :(! Is there a comprehensive list on this website of everything legal?
Titel: Re:Legality of S. terrestris
Bericht door: Kenny op december 10, 2012, 07:40:27 PM
Citaat van: Nat1 op december 10, 2012, 11:20:22 AM
Gosh, our bad luck, Joost! I'm moving :(! Is there a comprehensive list on this website of everything legal?

It's simple, every native newt/salamander incl. it's subspecies are illegal. So no L.helveticus, no L.vulgaris, no T.cristatus, no I. alpestris and no S.salamandra
Titel: Re:Legality of S. terrestris
Bericht door: Niels D op december 10, 2012, 10:10:15 PM
Enough beautiful species left if you ask me.  ;)
Titel: Re:Legality of S. terrestris
Bericht door: Nat1 op december 11, 2012, 09:08:48 AM
Citaat van: Kenny op december 10, 2012, 07:40:27 PM
Citaat van: Nat1 op december 10, 2012, 11:20:22 AM
Gosh, our bad luck, Joost! I'm moving :(! Is there a comprehensive list on this website of everything legal?

It's simple, every native newt/salamander incl. it's subspecies are illegal. So no L.helveticus, no L.vulgaris, no T.cristatus, no I. alpestris and no S.salamandra

So it's not Salamandra terrestris, but Salamandra salamandra terrestris. And T. marmoratus isn't a subspecies of T.cristatus so it's ok? And everything else is alright?
Titel: Re:Legality of S. terrestris
Bericht door: Roy van Grunsven op december 12, 2012, 11:13:43 AM
For a lot of European species you need to have to have papers to show they are not wild caught. But this is not complicated. The person you buy them from can help you.
Salamandra salamandra is simply illegal to keep in NL, no amount off paperwork can help that.